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Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:21 pm
by Drakel
BeneathTheStarlight36 wrote:according to a Christian account of the afterlife, angels are human-shaped. i can't say about Judaism. though certainly i believe non-evil beings, even though not on an angelic level, can still be dragons. i'm about as draconic as a human being can get, and i'm not aligned with negative forces.

would you mind elaborating a bit on the other plane of existence idea?
Judaism is the father of Christianity so it's likely that they are the same. Even so, I know that both books were written by man and as what was stated before several times, we exaggerate things or lie to make us seem like the "nearly flawless, chosen children of got that we are." So I wouldn't be shocked if angels, like souls are energy based as well and can take whatever shape they want though as I said, I would prefer dragons lol.

As for your question, no I wouldn't mind though in all honesty I have no idea what this form of existence is. It could be better than our current one, it could be worse. It's all a surprise and I doubt we'll ever find out.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:52 pm
by Falconer
Drakel wrote:
BeneathTheStarlight36 wrote:according to a Christian account of the afterlife, angels are human-shaped. i can't say about Judaism. though certainly i believe non-evil beings, even though not on an angelic level, can still be dragons. i'm about as draconic as a human being can get, and i'm not aligned with negative forces.

would you mind elaborating a bit on the other plane of existence idea?
Judaism is the father of Christianity so it's likely that they are the same. Even so, I know that both books were written by man and as what was stated before several times, we exaggerate things or lie to make us seem like the "nearly flawless, chosen children of got that we are." So I wouldn't be shocked if angels, like souls are energy based as well and can take whatever shape they want though as I said, I would prefer dragons lol.

As for your question, no I wouldn't mind though in all honesty I have no idea what this form of existence is. It could be better than our current one, it could be worse. It's all a surprise and I doubt we'll ever find out.
According to the actual faiths they aren't written by men, but by God. And angels aren't that human. The closest is described as having a human-like body with four faces on their heads and six wings. The cherubim are described as being "great wheels of wings and eyes" and the archangels aren't even described at all; all we know is that their appearance is so terrifying that every human reacts by immediately prostrating themselves, though they CAN disguise themselves as humans for a while.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:15 am
by BeneathTheStarlight36
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Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:01 am
by Drakel
Falconer wrote: According to the actual faiths they aren't written by men, but by God. And angels aren't that human. The closest is described as having a human-like body with four faces on their heads and six wings. The cherubim are described as being "great wheels of wings and eyes" and the archangels aren't even described at all; all we know is that their appearance is so terrifying that every human reacts by immediately prostrating themselves, though they CAN disguise themselves as humans for a while.
I know, though I'm not really the type to put my faith in 100% of what is written. Even so I do place my faith 85% for the moral points and lessons that are made in the book and understand why the other 15% is what it is.


BeneathTheStarlight36 wrote:plus i was talking about a somewhat-recent account of Heaven that wasn't written in the Bible.

also, (... how vague can i be in this post .. )
don't be so sure about the uncertainty of this potential realm of existence. perhaps, if there is one, it will be revealed to Earth someday. or it may not exist.

I'm sure that the realm will be revealed to Earth someday or is discovered, I'm just uncertain on what in exact this other plain of existence is. Even so I'l 100% sure that once we find out, we will all be speechless out of the sheer shock of what we would find, no matter what this other realm is.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:35 am
by Falconer
Well, physics does allude to a total of 15 (?) dimensions, most of which are inaccessible at this moment to us. Maybe one of those holds some answers.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:17 pm
by Drakel
Falconer wrote:Well, physics does allude to a total of 15 (?) dimensions, most of which are inaccessible at this moment to us. Maybe one of those holds some answers.
More so around 10 than 15 though I think it varies. In any case, maybe they will and maybe they won't. I'm sure that by the end of our life times the questions will be answered.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:16 pm
by Falconer
According to MAJ Samantha Carter on Stargate: SG-1 there are 15, so that is what I am going with. ^-^

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:32 pm
by BeneathTheStarlight36
physics is pretty subjective anyway because the laws of *physics* don't apply outside of the *physical* plane, and science has determined that the physical universe has a shape and so, boundaries, outside of which physics don't have to apply.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:44 am
by BeneathTheStarlight36
i no longer stand behind my posts in this thread and no longer consider myself otherkin.

i would rather not explain right now.

for now, let's just say that i perceive the otherkin phenomenon in a different way now.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:58 am
by Falconer
Clowns?

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:43 pm
by BeneathTheStarlight36
hm? what about them?

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:19 pm
by Falconer
They taste funny.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:40 pm
by BeneathTheStarlight36
i can't say i've ever eaten one!

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:12 pm
by Falconer
Why? Afraid of incriminating yourself? :P

On a slightly more serious note, I know this probably has nothing to do with the concept of dragonkin that's being discussed, but if someone were to create a stable genetic hybrid of human and dragon that was 50% each, would its mind be more dragonlike or humanlike?

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:53 pm
by Corva
That would depend on how the genes relating to brain structure worked together (and that will probably be most of them, on some level), which species they grew up in, how the hormones work in their bodies...

Even if you had a sample of Pure Dragon DNA, you'd need to be a superbright at least in order to synthesise a perfect hybrid. Or more ruthless than Dr Mengele, and brute force a solution, perhaps. Nearbaselines could probably achieve some degree of rianthhood, though, fairly easily.

I think humanoid rianths are going to be the extent of modifications for furries and otherkin for at least this century, and quite possibly the next.

I have a few worldbuildings in mind that involve such creatures. One has them as a major part; it's the one that has various fandoms ascending and developing advanced technology, whilst fighting each other (their angelnets eventually merge into what's known as the Source, which can be accessed and used by Mages of all fandoms, whether they be unicorns, psykers, wizards, vampires...). Ahem. The Equestrians are pony rianths mainly, though other rianths are around. Naturally, The Imperium hate them for defiling the human form...

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:48 pm
by Falconer
Damn purists. They ruin all the fun.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:35 am
by Corva
Indeed.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:12 pm
by gre
*snip*

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:44 pm
by Falconer
Dude, we goof around. Relevancy is all relative, anyway.

And a spiritual connection can be as strong as "otherkin" or as mild as an empathic understanding.

Re: Dragonkin

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:33 am
by Corva
Well, I believe my soul is half Human, half Dragon. I am kin to both Wyrm and the races of Men.