@ Pandora: I really can't explain how I missed your request but consider it done!
Draches wrote:Doesn't that mean you have to die and have like, 6 virgin women?
Serenity wrote:And Draches... That made no sense in my mind, whatsoever.
In an interview with a Hamas activist Muhammad Abu Wardeh, who recruited terrorists for suicide bombings in Israel. Abu Wardeh was quoted as saying: "I described to him how God would compensate the martyr for sacrificing his life for his land. If you become a martyr, God will give you 70 virgins, 70 wives and everlasting happiness." Wardeh was in fact shortchanging his recruits since the reward in Paradise for martyrs was 72 virgins. But I am running ahead of things.
In sura 55 verses 72-74, Dawood translates the Arabic word "hur" as "virgins", and the context makes clear that virgin is the appropriate translation for the reward to martyr: "Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before." The word hur occurs four times in the Koran and is usually translated as a "maiden with dark eyes".
One of the reasons Nietzsche hated Christianity was that it "made something unclean out of sexuality", whereas Islam, many would argue, was sex-positive. One cannot imagine any of the Church fathers writing ecstatically of heavenly sex as al-Suyuti did, with the possible exception of St Augustine before his conversion. But surely to call Islam sex-positive is to insult all Muslim women, for sex is seen entirely from the male point of view; women's sexuality is admitted but seen as something to be feared, repressed, and a work of the devil.
So basically, Elysian would get 72 virgin if she is a Muslism martyr. Thus the virgin joke (and it's not 6 either).
For Christian martyr get something describe as unspeakable joy and that the reward will be greater in proportion to the earthly possessions left behind. I'm not sure if Bill Gate can sue for false advertisments if he doesn't end up owning the heaven or if there is a legal loophole in such case. I must admit, I didn't read all the fine prints.
For Buddhism, if you are a martyr, it's because you did something really wicked in a previous life and frankly, you deserve your current situation. It's like a delayed punishment.
For messages board, the closest thing to a martyr I could find is being a "target". It's the kind guy everyone in a forum loves to hate. He usually brings this upon himself; he may be a known cheater in a game forum, a conservative among liberals, a Windows guy among Mac enthusiasts, or even a man in a women's forum. Target places himself in such dicey situations is anyone's guess, but he seems genuinely oblivious to the danger.
So I guess everyone can pick what they want but I doubt Elysian is really a true martyr... She doesn't seem to match any of the definition above.
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